RUSH: You know, I pastor a church.

BOND: Yes.

RUSH: Okay. I can't sing, but sometimes that choir, you know, although it might not sound right, but I'll help them out because I don't care about the talent. It's the courage to act.

BOND: And the congregation appreciates it.

RUSH: And the congregation appreciates it.

BOND: They're not looking for good singers.

RUSH: Absolutely. They want somebody — they want the feel. Right. Absolutely.

BOND: And who can help them feel what they want to feel.

RUSH: And who can help them feel it. Right, absolutely, so that's what it is. People who can't, who don't — who've got all of these talents and these skills and these gifts and these abilities — if they don't act, who knows anything about them, so I don't — my gift, God gave me the gift of courage. Gave me some commitment, but he gave me the gift of courage and that's what really helps me, moves me forward.