BOND: Now, what do we do as a country to create more leaders or more committed leaders in the future? What does our society have to do? How do we nurture new leaders?

BISHOP: By creating opportunities for leadership development, opportunities for students. There are many student programs that allow students to come into the Mock Legislature. There're programs that allow students to come to Washington in a Mock Congress where they debate issues and they decide how they would vote on the issues that the members of Congress are voting on which really gets them in the frame of mind of if I were in charge, what would I do and ultimately, one day they will be in charge and if they've had adequate opportunities to go through that process and to reflect on that process and how they go about making those kinds of decisions, I think that we'll have a much better cadre, a better pipeline coming to pass -- to whom we can pass the torch.

BOND: Sanford Bishop, thank you for being with us.

BISHOP: Thank you for having me. I've enjoyed it.

BOND: Good.