BOND: Very quickly, because our time is running out — how can we make sure we have the most effective leaders tomorrow, the next day, years ahead? How can we make sure new leaders come up?

MOORE: I think it’s important to hold leadership accountable, you know, in my time and prior to my time, too many black leaders have been elected because they’ve had super black majority districts and no one ever runs against them, you know, no one ever challenges them. They don’t necessarily have to provide the expected leadership. I think that we need to demand the best of our leadership because we are, you know, structurally at a disadvantage in this society and we can ill afford to have leaders who don’t have our backs, quite frankly.

BOND: Well, we’re glad to have Congresswoman Gwen Moore here because we know she has our backs. Thank you for being with us.

MOORE: Thank you, sir.

BOND: Thank you.