BOND: Back to vision, has your vision changed over time?

JONES: Hmmm — You mean, like today?

BOND: Or yesterday or —

JONES: No.

BOND: Maybe tomorrow?

JONES: That's a good question. Thank you for that. You know, there's something about — There's no rule book. How do they teach a young, self-involved body-oriented maverick how to be middle aged? How to have knees that are bad. How to have white hair, the planes of the face are chiseled in ways that I would not have it. I want the smooth face of a 20-year-old, a 30-year-old, and if the body has been the sole entre into all sorts of situations, problematic for black men if you can understand, the body is changing. Your calling card — Yeah, talk about vision changing. Make room for younger bodies, be more articulate, explaining things which used to be only feeling state. Oh, it's changing.